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Pallamanski
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Stary 30.07.2010, 09:05. Deroute of Polish football
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This week has marked a new low in Polish football:

Sparta Praga - Lech 1-0
Ruch - Austria 1-3
Wisla - Qarabag 0-1
Jaga - Aris Saloniki 1-2

It seems like the one place in Europe were football aint in progress is Poland. Seriously this is a disaster! What is the problem here? As I see it PZPN needs to reform training - even from youth players. More focus on tecnique and pace and stamina. Just listen to Paljic who had harder training 2. Bundesliga, this is a joke! IMO there is a lot of good talents in Poland but they do not develope to top level because Polish clubs train and perform like clubs in East Germany.

When I saw Legia vs. Brondby last season, Legia had problem playing balanced football - either it was full attack or full defence.
I remember in Denmark 7-8 years ago, all clubs were loosing in Europe. Then the Danish FA reformed training from youth onward. It has clearly helped, Danish clubs perform quite well in Europe now.

What do you think should be done?
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Stary 30.07.2010, 12:10
I cannot agree more. The thing is that the Polish Football Association is infested by ex-commies officials and coaches who got used to old-system methods and so-called "Polish football thought" and it's hard to root it out. Polish football is constatnly suffering from corruption, activity of some informal groups from within and lack of fresh blood at managerial posts. I think that the best option and the most radical as well is to disband this whole PZPN shithole and being suspend in return by FIFA but thank to that we could thorougly reform football youth training system and association istelf. So far, every minister of sport which has stepped on the warpath with PZPN ended discredited or humiliated. Cheers.
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Stary 30.07.2010, 13:57
I dont know i would just pass on some shitty transfers and invest it into training facilities for youth players. Then we need foregin coaches for those youth teams beacause we have no idea how to train!
Leave utopia plans about mighty polish teams in Europe get back on the ground and start working on it.
But that's just words. Im sure PZPN wont do shit. Its a clubs role.
They want to have good players or not ? Well they need start training them. You dont want to train ? Pay a lot for trained ones. Not doing any of the two ? Well, what we're talking about then ?
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Stary 30.07.2010, 16:51
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I cannot agree more. The thing is that the Polish Football Association is infested by ex-commies officials and coaches who got used to old-system methods and so-called "Polish football thought" and it's hard to root it out. Polish football is constatnly suffering from corruption, activity of some informal groups from within and lack of fresh blood at managerial posts. I think that the best option and the most radical as well is to disband this whole PZPN shithole and being suspend in return by FIFA but thank to that we could thorougly reform football youth training system and association istelf. So far, every minister of sport which has stepped on the warpath with PZPN ended discredited or humiliated. Cheers.
We can spit on PZPN as long as we want, but they're not the essence of the problem. They don't force each and every club to follow their thoughts, theyare actually barely hanging on to their seats at this moment.

The problem is the complete lack of perspective thinking in Polish clubs. Please, name one club that focuses on raising their own talents. NONE. If there is none, who will raise them? You cannot base a club's policy on transfers, because the market will shrink if there's no new product. And the market cannot live on what low-league clubs dig out or sport schools train. Why are Polish players so expensive on internal market? Because there's so little to choose from. And when they're expensive, they start thinking they're really good and what they have is enough. Very few actually have the ambition to go further than what they can do at 25, when they can do quite little. Those who actually can do something abroad are still shitty when they leave so after a few years of sitting on the bench and abilities decreasing they come back. with pockets full of money, looking for a decent retirement club to finish career in without much effort, of course. And the circle turns.

And then we have Wisla. A club with absolutely no policy of training youth. And the ones that are here at the club trained by TS Wisla at the non-existant training facilities, when you look at them - they're even worse than the players we have now. At the age of 17 all they care about is how to dye hair, how tanned they are, tattoos, jeans and stuff. So where are we supposed to get anything from? The club we have has no marketing, no media relations, no business strategy apart from counting on the owner's good mood. No effort was made to build something here. And the same narrow-minded strategy is copied at lower level clubs.

In my omain, if there is one club which proves that training players is the key and focusing on that is important, others will follow. But for now, cannot see any good examples. Maybe Lech? But don't know much about their strategy really, apart from the media releases about training youth...
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