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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:38
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=7VF_0T_ATw4 - And here is a film about our striker Paweł Brożek - 23 goals on 30 matches - the best in Polish League
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Gucio25 23 goals
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OUR GUEST SECTOR
How many people can this sector contain? it looks very small..
Around 300-400 ?
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:41
800 people can get in this sector.
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:41
Please watch this, FULL play by play, Wisla half of 07/08 season:
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=JX6a_VHi5SQ

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that's a funny clip with worsest plays by Pawel. most of them are from seasons, when he was young, like 2-3 years ago. in last season he was in much, much better form, that he became Best Scorer in our league with 23 goals.
What his qualities? Technical, fast plays a good head?
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:42
Wislak1906_TS napisał(a):Wyświetl post
Gucio25 23 goals
yeah, I corrected it.

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How many people can this sector contain? it looks very small..
Around 300-400 ?
our guest sector contain 1.000 places, so it's not so small.
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:43
magowski napisał(a):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pHXhzF3VJXw our best striker
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If this is your best striker' it is better for not to come to israel at all..
This movie presents misses and mishaps of these soccer players hehe, such movie for laugh
Ostatnio edytowane przez quick : 01.07.2008 o godz. 13:45.

Cupiał , Bednarz , Skorża - 1906% poparcia!
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:44
i Wish U A Very Good "zain Ba Tahat" Here In Israel!!
SHALOM!!!
והמבין יבין חח
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:44
israeli site of news sport say you play against beitar in other stadium beacause your stadium in renovation so you give just 8000-10000 fans
it's true?
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:44
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800 people can get in this sector.
it looks to be on the corner of the field am i right?

BTW our guest sector contains around 1500 seats but after they will probably put 2 rows of police chains from each side to separate our fans from guest fans (our fans can get very hostile...) it will come down to around 800 as well...
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:45
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What his qualities? Technical, fast plays a good head?
Do you know Tomasz Frankowski ? He is actually similar player. The goal hunter.

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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:45
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=fX3oRoQT0Z4

and one more

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=nyLRvU1AKuM
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Beitar Jerusalem F.C. (Hebrew: מועדון כדורגל בית"ר ירושלים‎; Mōadōn Kadūregel Beitár Yerushaláyim) is an Israeli football (soccer) club based in Jerusalem, Israel. It is the Israeli football club with one of the largest followings (if not the largest) in the country [1][2], and thought to be the wealthiest club in Israel thanks to the club's owner being Arcadi Gaydamak, a wealthy Russian-Israeli businessman. Club matches are played at the Teddy Stadium in the Malha neighborhood of Jerusalem. It has been dubbed Gehinom (English: Hell) by club supporters, for the hostile atmosphere they present to visiting teams and their fans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beitar_Jerusalem
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:47
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it looks to be on the corner of the field am i right?

BTW our guest sector contains around 1500 seats but after they will probably put 2 rows of police chains from each side to separate our fans from guest fans (our fans can get very hostile...) it will come down to around 800 as well...
Yes, this sector is on the corner of stadium. I have a question, what do you think, how many Beitar fans will come to the Krakow on the match?
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:48
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What his qualities? Technical, fast plays a good head?
he is fastest player in our team I think. his problem was missing a lot of chances, but from last season he repair it, and do great job. technically he is good to, he likes fast playing with teammates. I think that he's just very versatile player.
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:49
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How many people can this sector contain? it looks very small..
Around 300-400 ?
950...

BeitarJ - buaahahaha, you don't know polish fans. (STOP NAPINCE )
Tylko Wisła!
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:51
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Yes, this sector is on the corner of stadium. I have a question, what do you think, how many Beitar fans will come to the Krakow on the match?

Somewhere between 300-1000.
It depends very much on prices of deals to poland and if the team will arrange some special cheaper deal for the fans. Beitar fans are not the richest people and money can be an issue.

If there will be no help from the club i believe a few hundreds will come but if there will be a really good deal we can get to 1000-1500.

Personally, i am planning to come myself and am very much depending on good deal and ability to get of work for a few days.

How about u guys? how much of u planning to come?
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:54. All the information about Beitar Jerusalem FC !
History:


Beitar Jerusalem F.C.

Full name Beitar Jerusalem Football Club
מועדון כדורגל בית"ר ירושלים
Nickname(s) The Menorah
Founded 1936
Ground Teddy Stadium
Jerusalem, Israel
(Capacity: 21,600)
Chairman Flag of Israel Eli Arazi
(for Flag of IsraelArcadi Gaydamak)
Manager Flag of Israel Itzhak Shum
League Ligat ha'Al (Premier League)
2007-08 1st place (Champions)

Early history


Beitar Jerusalem F.C. (Hebrew: מועדון כדורגל בית"ר ירושלים‎; Mōadōn Kadūregel Beitár Yerushaláyim) is an Israeli football (soccer) club based in Jerusalem, Israel. It is the Israeli football club with one of the largest followings (if not the largest) in the country [1][2], and thought to be the wealthiest club in Israel thanks to the club's owner being Arcadi Gaydamak, a wealthy Russian-Israeli businessman. Club matches are played at the Teddy Stadium in the Malha neighborhood of Jerusalem. It has been dubbed Gehinom (English: Hell) by club supporters, for the hostile atmosphere they present to visiting teams and their fans.

Two Jerusalemites, David Horn and Shmuel Kirschstein, decided in 1936 to form a local football team. David Horn was the local chief of Betar, the youth movement of the Revisionist (liberal nationalist) Party, a pre-statehood Zionist movement. To this day Beitar fans are generally identified with that movement's successor party, the Likud or other right-wing groups. The leaders of the youth federation saw this as a project to produce a football club with Beitar's self-defined qualities of Hadar (self-respect) and Hod (glory). The earliest squad was composed entirely of Beitar youth members, including a future government minister, Chaim Corfu. They played initially at the "banana field" close to Beitar youth group's "nest".[citation needed]


Nordia Jerusalem

During the internment era, David Horn refused to suspend management of the Jerusalem club, and renamed it Nordia Jerusalem so as to deny ties with the Irgun. Most of the Nordia players nevertheless came from Beitar Youth's ranks, including their legendary striker Simon Alfasi. He soon formed the backbone of an offensive group that included Yisrael Yekhezkel and Aharon "Iron Leg" Khason.


Surviving the 1970s

The team manager in the early 1970s was Imannuel Sheffer, a practice coach for the national squad. He discovered Uri Malmilian, a 16-year-old who Sheffer promoted to the adult squad and who helped them evolve from virtually a pick-up squad to a more practiced, strategic squad. Beitar soon made headlines the wrong way for the first time during a 1974 match against Hapoel Petah Tikva, one of the best teams historically, when their fans charged the field and attacked Hapoel Petah Tikva players and fans. This caused the first of many "radius" penalties in club history, and they were forced to play several home games in another city without an audience. Also that year the club was supposed to descend one league, but instead was saved by the intervention of Members of Knesset Ehud Olmert (Likud, also ex-Beitar Youth) and Yossi Sarid (Civil Rights group; today a leading critic of Beitar fans).They suspended the descension of Beitar and called for an investigation of Israeli Football Association corruption.

This salvation proved to be a burst of stimulant in Beitar. In 1976, under coach Nissim Bechar, and with the trio of Malmilian, Danni Noiman and Victor Levi, they won their first State Cup title, defeating Maccabi Tel Aviv, which had 8 Cup titles to its name, 2:1 in the final. They also came in second in the more important championship (points) play to Hapoel Be'er Sheva. In 1979 they once again downed Maccabi Tel Aviv by the same score in the Cup final under manager Shimon Shenhar.

The best of times

In 1980 Beitar Jerusalem's potentially historic season cascaded in the face of a season-ending injury to striker Uri Malmilian. The team finished the season at the bottom of the National League, and fell to the A League. The following season a new striker, Eli Ohana, joined the team, and became the face of the modern club. Ohana was well known for being a competitive player, and by 1983-84 Beitar was on the verge of becoming the champions' of Israeli football. The last game of that season was between Beitar and Hapoel Tel Aviv, and Jerusalem needed a win or a tie to clinch their first title. But Hapoel's legendary Moshe Sinai foiled it in a tight game that gave the title to 2nd place Maccabi Haifa. The bitter defeat created a deep-seated hatred between Beitar and Hapoel fans that has not cooled with the times and only seems to get more violent.

In 1985 Beitar moved on by defeating Maccabi Haifa 1:0 in the State Cup Final for their third title, and in 1986 they once again took the final against Beitar Tel Aviv, then a growing power in Israeli football, in the premier season of manager Dror Kashtan. Kashtan did not fluke on his early success, and in 1987, Beitar played a full season in Tel Aviv's Bloomfield Stadium and became champions. That year's roster included Malmilian, Eli Ohana, Yossi Mizrahi (the "suicidal goalkeeper"), Hanan Azulai, Shlomo Shirazi, Avi Cohen, Sammy Malkha, Yakov Schwartz, Udi Ashash, Meir Kadosh, Gary Wandermolen, and Avi Golder. In the postseason Ohana signed with KV Mechelen of the Belgian league and was one of their leaders on the way to their first and only European Supercup title. In 1989 Beitar once again took the State Cup final, this time winning on penalty kicks against Maccabi Haifa.

Rollercoaster 1990s
Teddy Stadium
Teddy Stadium

Beitar disintegrated in 1990-91, and was relegated to the second league, then called "Liga Artzit" (country wide league). Ohana returned the next season, and the squad returned to the first ("National") League under Lufa Kadosh's unpopular but effective conservative tactics. Kadosh was then sacked, and replaced by the popular former manager Dror Kashtan. Kashtan lived up to the expectations and more, winning the national title for 1992-93. Afterward (1995) came manager Eli Cohen, who built one of Israel's all time greatest teams. This squad won the 1996-97 championship and repeated the achievement in the following season, this time under Dror Kashtan who thus won his third cap with Beitar. Kashtan went on to train the team in the dreary 98-99 season, which ended in a loss on penalty shootout versus Hapoel Tel Aviv in the cup final. After this traumatic game, the helm was passed to Kashtan's disciple, Eli Ohana. Ohana's first year as a manager (1999/2000) was less than mediocre, despite the fortunate draw that allowed the team to cruise all the way to the cup final, where it lost to Hapoel Tel Aviv 2:4 on penalty kicks (2:2 in regulation).

However, the end of the 90's marked more than the end of good football in Jerusalem. Due to the scandalous financial management of Moshe Dadash, the legendary chairman, Beitar found itself bankrupt and devoid of assets. Dadash sold the team's training grounds, pocketed 6 million shekels from the purchase money and sold the team to a business group led by businessman Kobi Ben Gur.

Increasing decay

Ohana was fired after the 1999-2000 season when Hapoel Tel Aviv downed Beitar in the second straight Cup final 2:4 on penalty kicks (2:2 regulation). He was replaced by Eli Guttman, who was helped by the signing of Croatian star midfielder Giovanni Rosso. But Gutman's conservative "bunker" style strategy made him a fan target for derision, and he was soon fired as well, a move that ended the directorship of Gad Ze'evi and moved it into the hands of the group that previously bought the team's training grounds - Meir Fenijel, Meir & Shaul Levi and Sasson Shem Tov. The next few seasons showed a Beitar club barely surviving. Rosso signed with Maccabi Haifa and led them to two championships while Beitar struggled to make budgets.


"New" Beitar
Beitar training at the Daniel Hotel, Herzliya. October, 2006.
Beitar training at the Daniel Hotel, Herzliya. October, 2006.

Under tycoon Gaydamak, the club soon established itself as having the largest budget in the Israeli league. New players were signed such as Jérôme Leroy, Fabrice Fernandes, David Aganzo and the club eventually signed manager Luis Fernández. Beitar finished 3rd in the league and qualified for the UEFA Cup at the end of the 2005-2006 season.

For the 2006-2007 season Beitar signed a new manager Ossie Ardiles and several big-name players as well such as Ghanaian Derek Boateng, Israeli Michael Zandberg from Maccabi Haifa and Shimon Gershon from bitter rivals Hapoel Tel Aviv. Beitar was hoping to finally battle it for the Championship again and revive its "glory days" and indeed, in 2007, the team did win the Championship.

After a few months Ossie Ardiles was fired mainly because of failure in the Uefa cup - a loss to FC Dinamo Bucureşti on aggregate, and disappointing scores in the league. The new manager is Yossi Mizrahi former Beitar goalkeeper and manager. Mizrahi is compensated $270,000 USD per season. Mizrahi led the team to the championship.

Crest

Since their foundation, the menorah has become a theme that has run throughout the club. The new crest has kept the menorah.

Mid-1990s crest


Late-1980s crest

Honours

* Old Liga Leumit/Ligat ha'Al[3] titles: 6
o 1986/87, 1992/93, 1996/97, 1997/98, 2006/07, 2007/08
* State Cup 6
o 1976, 1979, 1985, 1986, 1989, 2008
* Toto Cup 1
o 1997/98
* Israel Champion of Champions Cup 2
o 1976, 1986
* Lilian Cup 1
o 1985
* Mini Football Championship 1
o 1988
* Peace Cup 1
o 2000

Fans:

Video-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYGbvwiAXXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TzJ-5yfJI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKbvHYmwsPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULNVClKglww
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ljoVhiko8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGJEpoaQ-3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrka...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM2KNNT3bYk

Pictures -

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9...89f33cdvk2.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9...9e3f2e2zr4.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3...a30149amh8.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3...a5ca5ffep6.jpg
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9...8aef2e7yy7.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2...a05848ebr5.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2...b94d5e1az3.jpg
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5134/hakot022ej5.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4982/tks01fx8.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7...izona05tq7.jpg
http://eliad.org/uploads/1212862388.jpg
http://eliad.org/uploads/1212925204.jpg
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/3118/bj001aw8.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1...izona03ee4.jpg
http://www.zix.co.il/images/z-693402362.jpg
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/2...img2400gv8.jpg

Squad-

GK
Tvrtko Kale - 33 yo Croatia (foreigner)
Ariel Harush - 20 yo Israel

Defenders
Arik Benado (CD) - 34 yo Israel - team's 2nd captain
Shimon Gershon (CD) - 30 yo Israel
Tomer Ben-Yosef (CD) - 29 yo Israel
Shmuel Kozukin (CD) - 20 yo Israel
David Amsalem (CD) - 37 yo Israel - team's captain
Yoav Ziv (LD) - 27 yo Israel
Eliran Denin (LD) - 24 yo Israel
Cristian Alvarez (RD) - 28 yo Chile (foreigner)
Shai Haddad (LD) - 20 yo Israel
Matan Barashi (CD) - 20 yo Israel

Midfielders
Dan Ivinder (CM) - 18 yo Israel
Michael Zandberg (LM) - 28 yo Israel
Idan Vered (AM) - 19 yo Israel
Aviram Bruchian (CM) - 23 yo Israel
Idan Tal (LM) - 32 yo Israel
Derek Boateng (CM) - 25 yo Ghana (foreigner)
Moshe Ohayon (CM) - 25 yo Israel
Dario Fernandez (CM) - 29 yo Argentina (foreigner)
Shai Nissim (LM) - 20 yo Israel

Attackers
Amit Ben Shuhan (CF) - 23 yo Israel
Toto Tamuz (ST) - 20 yo Israel
Sebastian Abreu (ST) - 32 yo Uruguay (Foreigner)
Tal Mashali (FC) - 19 yo Israel

Loaned Players
* Eitan Tibi (CD, 20 yo) - SC Ashdod , 1 year
* Junior Viza (AM, 22 yo Peruvian) - Hapoel Petach Tikva , 1 year
* Avi Rikan (AM, 20 yo) - Hapoel Petach Tikva , 1 year
* Hen Azriel (FC, 19 yo) - Hapoel Petach Tikva , 1 year
* Joeano (ST, 29 yo Brazilian) - Academica (POR) , 1 year
* Kobi Moyal (MC, 20 yo) - Bnei Yehuda Tel-Aviv , 1 year

Staff
*Chairman - Arkadi Gaidamak - Russia
*Ceo - Eli Arazi - Israel
*General Manager - Itsik Kornfine - Israel
*Director of football - Giora Shpigel - Israel
*Manager - Itzhak Shum - Israel


Rumours

* IN - Barak Itzhaki (FC, 23 yo, Israel) from Racing Genk [around 1M Euros]

* OUT - Derek Boateng to Inter Milan [around 3M Euros]
Toto Tamuz to Twente FC [1M Euros]

Our Stadium (Teddy Stadium) -

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium...lem_teddi2.jpg
http://www.jerusalem.muni.il/sport/tedi/tedi.jpg
http://www.jerusalem.muni.il/imagedb/n_19721149.gif
http://www.beitar-jerusalem.net/_med...ery_67/635.jpg
http://www.2send.us/upload_download....6f82f338b2ef2f

the end.

I hope Beitar will win and pass to 3nd Qualification (lol of course)
little advice - Our heaven is your Hell (Teddy Stadium)
And ima shelahem zona ya polanim mizdaynim - Its mean Good luck
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:56
it cost us a lot of mony to come to Poland
but we'll try to handle this subject
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Stary 01.07.2008, 13:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfIyPrVVnro
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Stary 01.07.2008, 14:11
lol, "Greatings"...
haha, classic beitar.

Anyway have no fear Wisla these guys are pretty good in the league (even though they lost two of our three games between Hapoel and Beitar) but they can't do shit when it comes to Europe. (they lost to copenhagen last year)

I wish you another red&white victory.
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Stary 01.07.2008, 14:18
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lol, "Greatings"...
haha, classic beitar.

Anyway have no fear Wisla these guys are pretty good in the league (even though they lost two of our three games between Hapoel and Beitar) but they can't do shit when it comes to Europe. (they lost to copenhagen last year)

I wish you another red&white victory.

First of all, we won 2 of 3 games against you pussies.
Secondly, don't forget the 5-0 you poor bastards received at Toto cup.
Last but not least, how did it feel when Kale stopped Oved's penalty and you stupid pigs suddenly saw 30,000 yellow fans jump high of their seats? Sweetest title ever, Israel state cup 07-08 .

Now take your gay, pimple faced red ass and get the fuck out of here.
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Stary 01.07.2008, 14:23
we had to give you one considering we took the last two cups AND the last two finals against you.

Oh please, if anyone from Poland is reading this the toto cup is known in Israel as the chocolate milk cup, because nobody cares about it.
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Stary 01.07.2008, 14:25
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lol, "Greatings"...
haha, classic beitar.

Anyway have no fear Wisla these guys are pretty good in the league (even though they lost two of our three games between Hapoel and Beitar) but they can't do shit when it comes to Europe. (they lost to copenhagen last year)

I wish you another red&white victory.
חחחח ישקרן עלוב עללק הפסדנו 2 מתוך 3 פחחח


He is lying.
Actually,Beitar defeated Hapoel five times this year.
One of this victories was in the Israeli cup final.
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Stary 01.07.2008, 14:27
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Secondly, don't forget the 5-0 you poor bastards received at Toto cup.
HEHEHEHE
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Stary 01.07.2008, 14:29
I think our forum it's bad place to your ,,war". Please, don't write here about it!
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Stary 01.07.2008, 14:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXW3kPy__s
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#89
Stary 01.07.2008, 14:37
Your'e right, sorry.

Just wanted to wish you luck.
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Stary 01.07.2008, 14:41
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Can you guys shows us guest sector at your stadium as well?
I want to see where i'll be standing for 90 minutes...
it can be for 120 minutes as well(or more)... the match at Poland will be the 2nd phase
btw: here is the official site of Beitar Jerusalem F.C. - http://www.bjerusalem.co.il/BJHome.aspx
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