Greatings from Israel

[Vinci]

All i know that he is wanted in France. about the bus today, our police won't let any one of you to get hurt - they know what they do, and with the security around you, i don't believe that something bad will happen to you. hapoel's fan, we didn't touch anyone from copenhagen'fs fans

How many tourists have recently died in Jerusalem because of street battles or explosions?

[neri]

How many tourists have recently died in Jerusalem because of street battles or explosions?

i think that none, but i'm not sure.

the palestinian terrorists won't dare to harm any foreign civilians, especially not europeans.
they focus on killing innocent israeli women and childern.
these terrorists know that in such case the european union will fully support israel's actions against them and no one will continue to believe their false propaganda.

[Triodante]

At first, while he just came to us, he was unstable, but after a few fixtures he came back to a really good form and save us a lot from embarassing goals. I can tell you that i trust him more then our defense' players, but I know that not every Beitar fan would say that.

our goalkeeper join us a year ago. he did 2 critical errors last year against kopenhagen, and because of that we lose. since than, he became our best player also with arik benado(CB) in defense. i'm sure that his performance now will be much better.

Ok, but what is the strongest element of his game? Is it the defending at the goal line or fighting for the ball in the air? Or maybe he’s good at both?

I'm not frustrated about losing the league. Not one bit. Why do you keep insisting that I'm frustrated when I am not? I think you're more frustrated about my posts and blowing your cover than I am about Legia losing the league. Some people on these boards wanted Wisla to come off as a formidable team still capable of playing at the level of Parma, Schalke, Lazio games but that is plain stupid. I say it like it is, if there is any frustration in my posts it's the frustration with the state of Polish football in general, not Legia losing the league to Wisla.

If you weren't frustrated you wouldn't boast on this forum that you (Legia) recently won with us, which was supposed to show our quality, letting you undervalue that you’ve lost the league competition with us. It has nothing to do with European rivalry. This what you call a "cover" is the knowledge of the similar position that both teams (Wisła and Beitar) have in Europe based upon their ranking and achievements in the European Cups in recent years. And I've mentioned nothing about Parma, Schalke or Lazio. These teams are better than Wisła, such as they are better than Beitar. Both Wisła and Beitar have similar chances of winning this two matches and we shall see who will win. That’s really everything I have to say to you, Pioneer.

[Beitar-Jerusalem]

Ok, but what is the strongest element of his game? Is it the defending at the goal line or fighting for the ball in the air? Or maybe he’s good at both?

Not exactly on the goal line. He has no problem to go out if he needs to, and to fight in the air too. I don't know what his best thing, but he doesn't afraid to do nothing. He's quite a crazy man, either bad and good.

[beitar1936]

just see this video (all of it) and than tell us what you think about us.

this clip made for the the game between beitar and wisla.


http://www.upfree.net/6769942

[Ksawery]

Too long, too monotonous. This kind of film should last mor than less 2 minutes and show skills of both teams and supporters

But I acknowledge the end is quite funny

[Omer]

Just imagine...it could be a bus full of Wisla players or supporters I suspect, it wouldn`t be unjustified to see if there is an possibilty of moving the game somewhere else. By the way, is it true that Beitar`s owner, Mr.Arkadij Gajdamak is a men who can`t travel nowhere beside Israel and US, due to a be in demand of Interpol ? What sort of bad things has he done then ?

I didn't understand your things properly in spite of this this sound that you do not believe that this indeed attack of Arabs. You want to see a segment of video of this?

[danielk]

Ok, but what is the strongest element of his game? Is it the defending at the goal line or fighting for the ball in the air? Or maybe he’s good at both?

he is good at the air and in penalties. he is well on 1 on 1. is big minus, is that sometimes he makes errors like a beginner.

[L.F]

Tell me that after the match Teddy is so good stadium for fans, because the roof, when 21,000 people sing under this roof, you have to scard. maybe Teddy is not the only stadium with roof, but the fans of Beitar sing so strong, then it unbelivable.

Jews are not afraid you krakow.

[Pallamanski]

All I can say is: What da fuck!

I'll be happy to answer anything about Beitar Jerusalem. I am from Denmark and know everything about the Israelis from when they clashed FC Kopenhaga.

There defence was shit in both games. Away from home Wisla should be careful. Keep main focus on concentration and discipline! Beitar knows how to attack at their stadium.

Wisla will have good opportunities if they choose to play at Reymonta like they play in the Ekstraklasa. Fast and direct passing between attack and midfield. In Parken Stadium in Kopenhaga the Israelis where clearly outclashed! And I can't see why Wisla can't do the same!

All in All... CONCENTRATION AND DISCIPLINE! And putting the chances into goals - then Wisla will play in 3rd round and I can finally return to Krakow!!

[Eustachy]

I didn't understand your things properly in spite of this this sound that you do not believe that this indeed attack of Arabs. You want to see a segment of video of this?

I have already seen the footage from that incident...
Obviously you got me wrong as I don`t consider it in the way, whether it was an arab attack or not.
All I`m saying is it can happen again and anyone can be affected. Even if potential terrorist focus on locals, he can by mistake "hit" someone else while his furious rampage, right ?
Generally Jerusalem doesen`t seem to be the safest place to visit, you wouldn`t desagree I believe

[Mishuh]

Tell me that after the match Teddy is so good stadium for fans, because the roof, when 21,000 people sing under this roof, you have to scard. maybe Teddy is not the only stadium with roof, but the fans of Beitar sing so strong, then it unbelivable.

I wonder if people like you've ever seen any clip showing a "NOT-Beitar" support. The level of your arrogance and ignorance is amazing. You think anyone here is impressed with your support? No. Not here, not in half of the world. Your support is medicore, I think you even look really poor compared to Ultras Ahlawy (not to look far from Israel- but of course you have different conditions than them) and will never work it good enough to have their numbers. Your ultra performances are nothing special, we've had A LOT better in Polish 3rd league. And I don't want to be rude, just want you to realize (yeah, I guess I'm bound to succeed )- you're nothing special for us. Decent, but nothing great.

Wisla is a class higher than you (in my opinion), maybe even two (although we're still faaaaar from best). You don't have to agree with it, you may think whatever you want, but the lack of any respect shown by Beitar fans is unseen before, at least for me. (And it's not a good thing ).

Haha! Dywizja Dania is here I was wondering when you come and say something about the Fc Kopenhaga game...

[Pablooo]

I wonder if people like you've ever seen any clip showing a "NOT-Beitar" support. The level of your arrogance and ignorance is amazing. You think anyone here is impressed with your support? No. Not here, not in half of the world. Your support is medicore, I think you even look really poor compared to Ultras Ahlawy (not to look far from Israel) and will never work it good enough to have their numbers. Your ultra performances are nothing special, we've had A LOT better in Polish 3rd league. And I don't want to be rude, just want you to realize (yeah, I guess I'm bound to succeed )- you're nothing special for us. Decent, but nothing great. Wisla is a class higher than you (in my opinion), maybe even two (although we're still faaaaar from best). You don't have to agree with it, you may think whatever you want, but the lack of any respect shown by Beitar fans is unseen before, at least for me. (And it's not a good thing ).

I'm tired of reading them too. What a arrogance. They though that we have poor ultras and poor support.
So they r wrong, a bit

Beitar's fans paste here some links to show how great ultras they are.. buuut.. what is great here? three flares, some flags and...? Well.. I can see that u find your ultras in "King of Ultras" way but.. it's really poor, I'm sorry.

Hope that it looks better live but in fact I don't care about this because u r not any rivals for us.
Just watch some movies or games live (TV) in Poland or Serbia for example too see what level you are.

[KuKoC]

Here is a good example of Wisla support

http://youtube.com/user/ewciakrk

[Mr. Surma]

The biggest club in Israel say hello to Wisla fans!

I wish you White Stars guys will win the match and help us all.

Maccabi Haifa FC website :
http://maccabi-haifafc.walla.co.il/

Good luck, and please...
F**K Beitar!!!

[neri]

I'm tired of reading them too. What a arrogance. They though that we have poor ultras and poor support. So they r wrong, a bit Beitar's fans paste here some links to show how great ultras they are.. buuut.. what is great here? three flares, some flags and...? Well.. I can see that u find your ultras in "King of Ultras" way but.. it's really poor, I'm sorry. Hope that it looks better live but in fact I don't care about this because u r not any rivals for us. Just watch some movies or games live (TV) in Poland or Serbia for example too see what level you are.

flares and smoke grenades are illegal in israel so they have to be smuggled into the stadiums.the police does a search on each and every fan before entering the stadium.i believe that those procedures are a bit different in poland and serbia .we can only dream about using hundreds of flares in one match.

[Bjerusalem]

All I can say is: What da fuck! I'll be happy to answer anything about Beitar Jerusalem. I am from Denmark and know everything about the Israelis from when they clashed FC Kopenhaga. There defence was shit in both games. Away from home Wisla should be careful. Keep main focus on concentration and discipline! Beitar knows how to attack at their stadium. Wisla will have good opportunities if they choose to play at Reymonta like they play in the Ekstraklasa. Fast and direct passing between attack and midfield. In Parken Stadium in Kopenhaga the Israelis where clearly outclashed! And I can't see why Wisla can't do the same! All in All... CONCENTRATION AND DISCIPLINE! And putting the chances into goals - then Wisla will play in 3rd round and I can finally return to Krakow!!

You're even more pathetic than wisla fans. It's easy to come here and laugh about us and write things about our defense, but you miss alot of details. one thing i can say for sure, even the media and beitar players says it, if we would meet you today the score would be easily 3-0 for us at both games, you guys are a big joke.

First of all, we meet you after alot of years that we didn't were in a big tournament so we had quite a new team that our main goal was to rule the israeli leauge and build it slowly with good 5 foreigners players based on young israeli players + national players.

last season our striker, Romulo, came to israel after he were injured a week and even less before our match against you. As you probably know, it's very hard for foreigner player and especially a player from south amercia to get used to different style of football, also we had new coach and a "super manager" therefor they didn't knew the team well and learn the players their style, you can add our sucky bootcamp and alot of things that I won't say - so shorty we were not ready even for hapoel tel aviv.

Btw, we both know, even fck fans known, that we played much better than you. first game we played much better with 10 players ( our best player boateng got a red card in middle of game and didn't played in teddy ) so basiclly we lost because stupid mistake from our new goalkeepr. and in second game we were 10 times better but we were unlucky in overtime duh low fithness.

Anyway, cut the bullshit and think we are low team with no chance. I wish we could get fck again, wisla krakow are way better team.

[Pablooo]

flares and smoke grenades are illegal in israel so they have to be smuggled into the stadiums.the police does a search on each and every fan before entering the stadium.i believe that those procedures are a bit different in poland and serbia .we can only dream about using hundreds of flares in one match.

In Poland flares r illegal too.

[Pallamanski]

You're even more pathetic than wisla fans. It's easy to come here and laugh about us and write things about our defense, but you miss alot of details. one thing i can say for sure, even the media and beitar players says it, if we would meet you today the score would be easily 3-0 for us at both games, you guys are a big joke. First of all, we meet you after alot of years that we didn't were in a big tournament so we had quite a new team that our main goal was to rule the israeli leauge and build it slowly with good 5 foreigners players based on young israeli players + national players. last season our striker, Romulo, came to israel after he were injured a week and even less before our match against you. As you probably know, it's very hard for foreigner player and especially a player from south amercia to get used to different style of football, also we had new coach and a "super manager" therefor they didn't knew the team well and learn the players their style, you can add our sucky bootcamp and alot of things that I won't say - so shorty we were not ready even for hapoel tel aviv. Btw, we both know, even fck fans known, that we played much better than you. first game we played much better with 10 players ( our best player boateng got a red card in middle of game and didn't played in teddy ) so basiclly we lost because stupid mistake from our new goalkeepr. and in second game we were 10 times better but we were unlucky in overtime duh low fithness. Anyway, cut the bullshit and think we are low team with no chance. I wish we could get fck again, wisla krakow are way better team.

Haha I am SO SORRY that FC Kopenhaga couldn't wait till you guys ACTUALLY learned how to play football together as a team Whaaaat a shame!!

Second I am a fan of Brondby IF not FC Kopenhaga. Regardless I wasn't impressed by your team. I can say you did play some good football at Teddy Stadium - but football are also in the mind not only in the feets and THERE you where outclashed by FCK!

If Wisla plays intelligent football your team will not advance to the 3rd round

[Mishuh]

You're even more pathetic than wisla fans. It's easy to come here and laugh about us and write things about our defense, but you miss alot of details. one thing i can say for sure, even the media and beitar players says it, if we would meet you today the score would be easily 3-0 for us at both games, you guys are a big joke.

Another proof of the lack of any knwoledge of outside Israel. Pallamanski is from Broendby, so your words about meeting "them" are funny- it's as if you treated Beitar and Maccabi Tel Aviv like one team. Besides, he is a Wisla fan.
And if he's "even more pathetic", than what the f**k are you doing here? There were no invitations, especially to come and insult anyone.

Oh, and of course it's easy, even obvious to come here and laugh at Beitar's fans- because you are way more ridiculous than anything I've seen.Not that I've seen everything though.

and "Mr surma", in case you don't realize- Surma is not a person we like here

[Bjerusalem]

I'm tired of reading them too. What a arrogance. They though that we have poor ultras and poor support. So they r wrong, a bit Beitar's fans paste here some links to show how great ultras they are.. buuut.. what is great here? three flares, some flags and...? Well.. I can see that u find your ultras in "King of Ultras" way but.. it's really poor, I'm sorry. Hope that it looks better live but in fact I don't care about this because u r not any rivals for us. Just watch some movies or games live (TV) in Poland or Serbia for example too see what level you are.

Well, I can say the same. I'm very tired reading you and pathetic fans like yours that trying to show "mine is bigger than yours". I prefer these small flags and fans like us with atleast unstoppable stabilization and sympathy to our club and country not like yours that some ultras shit is more important than your team.

but I guess you care more to be anti-Semites fans who hate jews and support hitler or w/e. and as I wrote before, beitar fans known as very Zionistic to their country and team, also to their principles. When a bunch of fans like you will ever try to hurt us, attack, insult, use racist shit against us - a pay back will come and very quickly.

Btw a small fact you forgot to mention... maybe our leauge is crap but I guess polish leauge is even more. You can always afford more pyrotechnics items and won't get punished, but here in israel we have rules not like in poland. our football unification hate us because we're the strongest team, so they are trying to hurt us, therefor every pyrotechins will give us minus 2 points or a game without crowd. but hey, it's ok to talk behind a computer, hopefully when wisla fans will come to teddy they will see what real fans made of.

Btw, you should know that on internet there is alot of kids. nowadays on the modern football some fans grow up when the shows of crowd are way more important, but easily they understand they were wrong. our team above everything... we will come to win and qualify to champion leauge.

[Bjerusalem]

Another proof of the lack of any knwoledge of outside Israel. Pallamanski is from Broendby, so your words about meeting "them" are funny- it's as if you treated Beitar and Maccabi Tel Aviv like one team. Besides, he is a Wisla fan. And if he's "even more pathetic", than what the f**k are you doing here? There were no invitations, especially to come and insult anyone. Oh, and of course it's easy, even obvious to come here and laugh at Beitar's fans- because you are way more ridiculous than anything I've seen.Not that I've seen everything though. and "Mr surma", in case you don't realize- Surma is not a person we like here

He said he is from dk, I'm quite new on forum so i had no idea he is not a fck fan. but Now i do understand why he wrote some bullshit because he didn't knew nothing about us. I'm doing here to invite you to our forum but duh we have some problems on forums it can't happen. but when I saw some videos and comments about jews and anti-semites fans so I could'nt stay quiet, I will not tolerate these kind of things against my lovely team.

Again, I can't control all the fans and espeically on young fans that it might be their first time. so I never came to insult you or anyone else, but I do understand the people who does that after what we saw over here.

[Mishuh]

Well, I can say the same. I'm very tired reading you and pathetic fans like yours that trying to show "mine is bigger than yours". I prefer these small flags and fans like us with atleast unstoppable stabilization and sympathy to our club and country not like yours that some ultras shit is more important than your team.

And still not tempted to leave? Shite!

but I guess you care more to be anti-Semites fans who hate jews and support hitler or w/e. and as I wrote before, beitar fans known as very Zionistic to their country and team, also to their principles. When a bunch of fans like you will ever try to hurt us, attack, insult, use racist shit against us - a pay back will come and very quickly.

After two days of our "pre-rivalry" I have to say Jews (of course only "selected individuals", but in unbelievable scale) have masters degree in imagining things.But in case you don't know, there are therapies for schisophrenia.

Btw a small fact you forgot to mention... maybe our leauge is crap but I guess polish leauge is even more. You can always afford more pyrotechnics items and won't get punished, but here in israel we have rules not like in poland. our football unification hate us because we're the strongest team, so they are trying to hurt us, therefor every pyrotechins will give us minus 2 points or a game without crowd. but hey, it's ok to talk behind a computer, hopefully when wisla fans will come to teddy they will see what real fans made of.

Oh, you poor hated, but (Hallelujah!) strongest fans of the world. Hail. :/
Thank god Israel have rules, what would happen if you hadn't if you are an embarassment to the whole nation even with rules.

Btw, you should know that on internet there is alot of kids. nowadays on the modern football some fans grow up when the shows of crowd are way more important, but easily they understand they were wrong. our team above everything... we will come to win and qualify to champion leauge.

We know there are a lot of kids. We see your posts

[Pallamanski]

Seriously! Get out of our forum! You Israelis are starting piss everyone off! I can speak as being a foreigner attending Polish football... WISLA's fans are the best in Europe! There is no atmosphere better than on Reymonta Stadium!

And if you guys are looking for a fight in Jerusalem - please try us out! I am sure your hospitals will house not only injured soldiers but also injured Beitar-fans!

Peace out and may the best team win!

[Bjerusalem]

I think you the one who should take a therapies for schisophrenia, our fans didn't came and started to flame you for no reason. we saw enough videos and comments about us and I think they had enough, maybe you should read again my comments but unfortunately you are narrow minded to understand it.

Yeah, it is nice to listen to our biggest opponents on forums who write some crap about us. this pathetic fan who wrote about our fans and started to say how big and scary your ultras with pyrotechnics shit, so I explained very nicely to him we can't do that in israel.

[neri]

In Poland flares r illegal too.

than i guess polish police doesn't really care about enforcing the law.
you can't smuggle hundreds of flares without the police noticing.

[Pablooo]

Well, I can say the same. I'm very tired reading you and pathetic fans like yours that trying to show "mine is bigger than yours". I prefer these small flags and fans like us with atleast unstoppable stabilization and sympathy to our club and country not like yours that some ultras shit is more important than your team. ...........

Man, what r u talking about all the time?

Why u start to talk about nazi, racism or anti-semitism? Won't talk about it because you don't know nothing about us. I saw few weeks ago the programme about Jews. I realized that all of you think that all people in Poland r anti-semitic and we love Hitler here. Damn, what a stupid things.

I said it once but have to repeat - pyrotechnics r illegal in Poland. Got it? And.. stop saying that we have no rules here.. Good to hear that you, in Israel, have some rules. In all parts of life.

I have not started to talk "who is bigger", "who is better". I want to say you (because it seems that u don't know it), that Beitar's fans started to do it.


Well, be so proud, be so fu**ing arrogant. HOPE that our footballers will show what the real football is. Soon.

And, if u want to know, our fans r not so sure that we will get to 3rd round and beat Beitar. Not so easy, not so fast. But, what can I read in your opinion, you find your own not only about "King of Ultras" but the team of the best footballers in Europe.

[Mishuh]

I think you the one who should take a therapies for schisophrenia, our fans didn't came and started to flame you for no reason. we saw enough videos and comments about us and I think they had enough, maybe you should read again my comments but unfortunately you are narrow minded to understand it. Yeah, it is nice to listen to our biggest opponents on forums who write some crap about us. this pathetic fan and wrote about fans and started to say how big and scary your ultras with pyrotechnics shit, so I explained him we can't do that in israel.

OK, step by step.
1. Show me what comments and videos about you you mean, because I haven't seen anything. That's why you look like frustrated teenagers (en masse, not one by one)
2. You say you don't come to insult, but you do it in EVERY post. Think about the narrow mind issue again, maybe you'll see some on your side.
3. Flares ARE ILLEGAL in Poland as well, will you learn to read? People ARE searched at games, people DO GET stadium bans. And as much as you cannot accept it, our ultras are fantastic, while your seem to be... well just be.

[Pablooo]

than i guess polish police doesn't really care about enforcing the law. you can't smuggle hundreds of flares without the police noticing.

Haha Not so easy but.. everything is possible to do when u want it.




And.. to Bjerusalem - I have not try to scare you Why? Because of pirothenic?


Beitar's fans are better in scaring

[Bjerusalem]

Seriously! Get out of our forum! You Israelis are starting piss everyone off! I can speak as being a foreigner attending Polish football... WISLA's fans are the best in Europe! There is no atmosphere better than on Reymonta Stadium! And if you guys are looking for a fight in Jerusalem - please try us out! I am sure your hospitals will house not only injured soldiers but also injured Beitar-fans! Peace out and may the best team win!

mhh, you said you're from dk no? so why the fuck you're saying "our forum". I give a shit what you think about fans or ultra or any atmosphere, I compared to you ain't a kid that look for troubles and pay money for a ticket to see some pyrotechnics shit or a fans show. I come in order to cheer my team to WIN !!!

wohoo, this is a threat? damn, now i'm scared as hell from you, please our hospitals cost alot of money - I will pay you money just don't hit me or stab me like you have done and killed 3 fans, you "hooligans".

I ain't looking for any fight or troubles, I guess you are the ones who are looking for it. You saw me say bad things about your "ultra-scary-fans" and how bad they are and our is awesome ? I don't think s o.
I know which team will win - us, but thanks anyway. see you soon at teddy, ofc if you will come. guess you're a computer freak that know only talk behind computer and come to a game once a year, no? you're a joke.