spoxgreq napisał(a):

OK thanks for info about Teddy, I prolly wouldn't be so mixed up if you were writing his name from the capital letter.
DBJM - lions thanks for your post. Clearly I didn't mean your war with Palestine etc., by writing "eagerly looking forward only to make money out of somebody's misery and death (and no hard feelings but your nation should know what I mean very well indeed)" I meant this (in)famous inclination of some of Jewish ppl who are good at making money rarely taking other ppl's good into account. No contemporary politics.
BUT If you started the topic I'd like just to straighten sth up, namely media are not putting you into 'bad light' at least as far as Poland is concerned. To be honest you've got sooo many influence in world's empires such as USA, Poland etc (thanks to diaspora of course and also your high level of education [fondness of learning, here I go] which has been known v. well for ages) that media fear sometimes to put things straight and I'd rather say that you're almost always presented in decent way even if it was not so in reality. So don't fear about your 'picture' We only get sick and tired due to this ceaselessly_coming_back wave of 'anti-semitic' blabla. If a Frenchmen is killed, a headline says 'a man was killed' , If a Jew is killed 'a Jew was killed, abhorrent act of anti-semitism in Poland, burn that filthy nation'. This is so sick. The same goes with inscriptions on the walls concerning football fans (for instance in Cracow or in Łódź) which are often referring to Jews but has nothing to do with the Jewish ppl. But media love to take pictures of it and start the commotion once again. The only anti-semitic ppl I know are old ppl who's got their brains washed all over by communism propaganda (anti-USA=anti-Israel) and 'the old face' of the Church in Poland. That is all.
Aha, I watched Schindler's List. I think it's good but puts Poles in the horrible light, everyone who is Polish hates Jews there [ppl shouting along the road while Jews are deported or Polish voices in Auschwitz which were actually the ONLY Polish voices in the film. Pathetic) I think that much better film is "Pianista" (The Pianist) by Roman Polański, I really recommend it if you haven't seen it yet. It was fairly famous all over the world a few years ago, I think also a candidate for the Oscar.
Thanks for a really absorbing conversation, the more ppl presenting certain decent level the better.
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Maybe in your own enviroment we are not presented in a "bad light" as said, but around the world mostly we are.
Anyways this is not the topic of the issue.
I understand what you say about fans that are antisemi only on football fields agains their local opponents and do not actually hate Israelis/Jews but facts are that today the media controls the world and if they post in Israeli paper lets say something like "Wisla fans are known as antisemis" 95% of the people that see that will take these facts in their minds to the worst places.
Same goes for Wisla fans, i am sure that there are amongst you many that have taken that antisemic identity out of proportions and further than only hating Cracovia or Lodz but actually developing a huge anti and hate to anything that represents or has to do with Jews.
BTW, i havent seen "The Pianist" but it is a well known movie here too.