Greatings from Israel

[redman]

david-fcbj Quietly 1000-1200, but police give licence for only 800

[Mishuh]

regan- for security reasons police gave licence for only 800.

[neri]

The forum we have been invited to is so abusive towards us that I find it humiliating for Wisla fans to take part in any discussions there. Wisla fans should act with dignity - if they can't. >>> Here you can read private messages we have received from Beitar fans.

look, you have to understand that israelis are very sensitive about the holocaust.
the topic that PiastGliwice is referring to, was written by one of the admins probably as an impulsive reaction to the pictures of hitler that were posted here. he's actually a great guy, it's just a misunderstanding.

i'm sure that in next couple of days the admins will fix the access issue and ban all the stupid kids from the english message board.

[Mishuh]

look, you have to understand that israelis are very sensitive about the holocaust. the topic that PiastGliwice is referring to, was written probably as an impulsive reaction to the pictures of hitler that were posted here. he's actually a great guy, it's just a misunderstanding. i'm sure that in next couple of days the admins will fix the access issue and ban all the stupid kids from the english message board.

You call that sensitive? Then I don't want to see the insensitive Jews
You call that a missunderstanding? I would rather call it a serious lifethreat. But don't worry, no offence taken

[PiastGliwice]

How the hell you can call this as misunderstanding? You guys just offend Wisła fans, Polish people and the entire nation.

[Mishuh]

How the hell you can call this as misunderstanding? You guys just offend Wisła fans, Polish people and the entire nation.

and actually Europe as well

[neri]

You call that sensitive? Then I don't want to see the insensitive Jews You call that a missunderstanding? I would rather call it a serious lifethreat. But don't worry, no offence taken

by sensitive i meant that that we have no tolerance towards any references to hitler,nazis etc.

but we're not here to talk about history.
how do you feel about the draw?

[Kejt]

by sensitive i meant that that we have no tolerance towards any references to hitler,nazis etc. but we're not here to talk about history. how do you feel about the draw?

We dont have any tolearce when you call us hitler, nazis and threat our lives.
We are proud of our history.
Piss off.

[dostuffca]

"bujać to my ale nie nas" it's all the matter of a PR and lobbying I really recommend all of you a little book called "Początek" by Andrzej Szczypiorski - once upon a time it was an obligatory lecture in primary school - with a very strong ending.. Very good one for all those Arab haters, and only true defenders of Jewish people and Jewish culture..

Neri - you say you have no lolenrace toward references to hitler or nazis - we were just threatened to be burned after coming to Jerusalem, normal reaction of your people? I don't think so.

[PiastGliwice]

by sensitive i meant that that we have no tolerance towards any references to hitler,nazis etc. but we're not here to talk about history. how do you feel about the draw?

Did anyone of us mention something about shitler or nazis? If not Poles there would be no Jews now.



You're tough opponents and it'll be bloody hard to pass through the next round.

[Mishuh]

by sensitive i meant that that we have no tolerance towards any references to hitler,nazis etc. but we're not here to talk about history. how do you feel about the draw?

Then I can congratulate you. I never felt anti-semitic. I even used to attend to concerts during Jewish festivals in Krakow. But your "mates" just made me anti-semitic for the timebeing, without any regrets really.
We have no tolerance for morons without a bit of historical knowledge and for common discrimination of our club, nation and country. So I guess we're quite even now.

[Rafal-SWL]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xy8zUxU8CpI welcome to our hell! we will win and go to the third round!

hooligans? haha !
look -
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=dkc30oJLvcU


http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=42plid...eature=related

[redman]

movie about Wisla Krakow
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=TRgwe5ezAL8

Ultra Wisla
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=imO3LYQpzW4

and many more
http://pl.youtube.com/groups_videos?name=wisla

[neri]

Then I can congratulate you. I never felt anti-semitic. I even used to attend to concerts during Jewish festivals in Krakow. But your "mates" just made me anti-semitic for the timebeing, without any regrets really. We have no tolerance for morons without a bit of historical knowledge and for common discrimination of our club, nation and country. So I guess we're quite even now.

those are stupid pathetic kids that think they can threaten people on the internet.
i can only apologize and say that they don't represent all of us.
poles and jews had a very long and complicated relationship throughout hundreds of years.
hey, my grandfather was born in poland. i've been to poland, even to krakow

but i really want talk about football not history or politics.

[dorotja]

Neri, my grandfather turned into ashes in Auschwitz but it gives me no right to offend anybody.The hatred will lead us nowhere.

Let's talk about football

[neri]

Neri, my grandfather turned into ashes in Auschwitz but it gives me no right to offend anybody

well, i guess that's one thing we have in common.

ok, first question.
is it true that your 2 best players left the team? (one to france and one to cyprus)

[Pablo84]

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=42plidAWbhM
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=8aWXko...eature=related
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=WSud1h...eature=related
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=BCPEpc...eature=related

[pan_premier]

no.

Dudka was injured through big part of this season, and without him we played.
In our team there are a few good DM players, so nobody cried for Him

Paulista- he was a joker, so also not very important for us

[neri]

i guess that tomorrw's sports sections will have ansewrs for all of us.
yours will probably focus about Derek Boateng (midfielder) and our new signing Sebastian Abreu (striker).

[B.Jerusalem]

I see that most of Israelites are fucking nuts. I just opened the first topic at beitar's forum and saw shit like this: http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5360/dfqa2.png I can understand that the level of education is low in Israel but please go to the library and borrow some books about WW II, holocaust etc.

He said this because of your video clips on YouTube. Because of the anti semites pics

[As]

The two guys that left the team in the current transfer window were quite good players. Dudka was considerably better than J. Paulista who was typicall bench player. Dudka would probably start in first 11 in both games. Paulista had no or little chance to play even few minutes.
I think Wisla has advantage in playing the first leg away because both clubs don't know much about eachother so exeprience from the first game can be priceless.

Best of luck anyway.

I honestly hope that this tie won't turn in an anti'jewish/anti polish demonstration.

[regan]

those are stupid pathetic kids that think they can threaten people on the internet. i can only apologize and say that they don't represent all of us. poles and jews had a very long and complicated relationship throughout hundreds of years. hey, my grandfather was born in poland. i've been to poland, even to krakow but i really want talk about football not history or politics.

sorrry, but you began, conversation about this problems. So I' dont know, do you feel worse, than others nation, that you begin such topic?

[MrEshtaga]

you have 2300 seats in our stadium......

[As]

any pics of the Beitar ground?

[samkal77]

what you can tell us about your new player?

--MFKonrad Gołoś (loan return from Górnik Zabrze)--MFNorbert Varga (loan return from UTA Arad)--FWPatryk Małecki (loan return from Zagłębie Sosnowiec)--DFPeter Singlar (from Slovan Liberec)--FWTomasz Dawidowski (promoted from Wisła Kraków II)

[neri]

any pics of the Beitar ground?

[As]

Peter Singlar looks like the biggest signing so far altough according to words of our couach there are some big guns due to be signed any day now. The rest of the players listed above cannot be considered as a real impact. Most of them are young and talented but not good enough to make a difference. Everyone in Cracow is expecting that club will sign couple of experienced players before the start of the CL Campaign.

[Uran235]

About the two players that left Wisła. They were good players, but they both were expandable.
Dudka was a player of the polish national team, he could play on every position in defence and also as a defensive midfielder. The thing is he was too defensive for playing a wingback and thus lost competition to players such as Brożek and Baszczyński. On the other hand currently we've got two great center defenders, both very experienced, so Dudka couldn't win a place in the defence. In theory his position was the defending midfielder, but we already have two good defensive midfielders in the team, and two more are returning from loans. The player insisted on a transfer and the club agreed, but only if the transfer fee would be reasonable. It was and Dudka is now in France.
As for Paulista, as other people said before. He was a typical joker. His contract was expiering, and the club did want to keep the player, but not any cost.

Currently we are waiting for transfers to Wisła. We know that 4 players are returning from loans, and we've got one completely new player in squad, but apart from that our coach is expecting from 5 to 7 new players in the team in this transfer window. Unfortunatly our present sport director is good at keeping secrets and we've got absolutly no idea who the new players will be and when are they going to join the team.

And a return question, I've asked it before, but there was no responce. What type of football does your team represent. Is it offensive with holding to the ball, or defensive and sticking to counter attacks? And do you prefer to use the wings, or to go through the middle? Oh, and what's your basic formation, I mean is it 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-5-1 or what ?

[laska_prokocim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa5p-jLAj40

This is essence of Wisła Krakow, we beat Schalke 04 Gelsenkirchen, Panathinaikos Athens, AC Parma last few years...

[Omer]

Short movies of organization sympathizers of Beitar Jerusalem, La Familia

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r9c5hBul5aA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O-5k3vX8IKQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eDCYiFpGygY

The audience of Beitar he that is big in Israel, the vociferous the most and the strong.