03.07 (S, 18.30) Austria Wiedeń
05.07 (S) Hapoel Tel-Awiw
08.07 (S) FC København
10.07 (S) FC Koper
15.07 (S) Wisła Płock
19.07 (S) Liverpool FC
20.07 (?) Supercap (legia warsaw)
25/27.07 (L) League - first match
29/30.07 (LM, w) Beitar Jerusalem
05/06.08 (LM, d) Beitar Jerusalem

GK (1) - Tvrtko Kale - http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762596.gif - he is insane who can do stunning saves...or get ridiculous goals (depends what day he catch)

DF (2)- Cristian Álvarez - http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762599.gif - play in the national team of chile ...speed-7,ball control-7, def- 6.5 , passing -7 , shoot - ? ,body strange -7,game vision - 6

DF- (5)- Shimon Gershon http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762597.gif - cold under pressure, experienced defender but also slow(may go up with the ball)....
speed-5,ball control-6, def- 8 , passing- ? ,shoot -? ,body strange - 8,game vision-7


DF-(6)-Arik Benado- http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762550.gif- i see him like..8 years? i dont remember i saw someone cross him one on one......
speed-6.8,ball control-?,def-9,pass- 6,shoot-?,body strange-8,game vision -8



DF-(3)-David Amsalem- http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762558.gif- experienced old defender....
speed-6,ball control-6.5,def-7,pass- 6,shoot-?,body strange-8,game vision -6



DF-(14)-Yoav Ziv- http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762549.gif- quick and hasty and decisive - remind the [FONT=Arial]rabbit of Energizer[/FONT]
speed-7.8,ball control-7,def-6.5,pass- 6.5,shoot-7,body strange-6.5,game vision -6.5



MF-(8)-Aviram Baruchyan-http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762562.gif-very creative player,can change the game with one move...
speed-7.5,ball control-8.5,def-5,pass-7.5,shoot-7,body strange-6,game vision -8.3



MF-(11)-Idan Tal-http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762598.gif- he has hot blood and he good at all(try to anger him, good chance he will get a card)
speed-7.5,ball control-7.5,def-6.5,pass-7.5,shoot-7.5,body strange-7,game vision -7.5


MF-(15)-Michael Zandberg-http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762564.gif- creative and fast player
speed-7.8,ball control-8,def-5.5,pass-7.5,shoot-7,body strange-7,game vision -8



MF-(18)-Moshe Ohayon-http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg62909.gif- anther creative player beitar stole, also kind of a leader
speed-?,ball control-8,def-?,pass-8.3,shoot-?,body strange-7.5,game vision -8




MF-(20)-Derek Boateng-http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762561.gif-honesty i dont know why this player stay in israel,his place need to be in the premier league...if you neutralized him..you job wiil be much much easy.....
speed-8,ball control-7.8,def-7.8,pass-7.5,shoot-8,body strange-8,game vision -8





MF-(23)-Dario Fernandez http://img2.tapuz.co.il/forums/1_118625842.jpg-new player-dont know how he is ...his nickname is loko





FW-(7)-Amit Ben-Shushan-http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762554.gif-fast with good ball control ...better be cautious
speed-8.2,ball control-7.8,def-5,pass-7,shoot-7,body strange-6,game vision -7.8



FW-(10)-Toto Tamuz-http://images.one.co.il/images/d/small/gg762595.gif-strong and fast striker,dunno if he will be stay with beitar
speed-7.5,ball control-7,def-5,pass-5.5,shoot-8,body strange-8,game vision -6



FW-(13)-Sebastián Abreu - http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer2/020...9/PPO009_a.jpg-new player who came from river plate


this info i write specially for kazimish muscal,if it can help a little to kick beitar from the chempion , i will be glad:>

Ye, i saw that and yet, the one above you said that you'll play against hapoel tel aviv...:-/

well?

samkal77

The team from Israel which will play against Wisla is HAPOEL TEL AVIV. This is information from Wisla official site.

Hapohell, about your observations, the notes you gave these players, are they given compared to the average level of a player in your league, UEFA cup group stage or Champions League group stage?

Our clubs official site already posted a quick summary of Beitars gameplay style and top players, so I think there is no way that our players won't know their enemy.

Are yours club planning some transfers? Wisla probably buy some new ( I hope very good ) players. How it looks in yours club?

hi wisla fans!
my name is david frenkel and i am an avid beitar fan. i know some fans posted some pictures and clips earlier, but i thought i'd give you a closer look on some our real scary fans:
this is the lovely abigail, in a very sentimental and endearing mood. stir clear of her when yoy come to teddy!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7zLHFt1SM
http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=2588996
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P9cpSQWjcew&feature=related

this is omer hermesh, a good friend of mine ( we were in our fans forum management together ). he is talking about his love for his wife and beitar, and the ways he expresses it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VkPt2Bq9GNw&feature=related

this is a tribute to the late david arak, a dear dear fan and features our most dedicated and adorable fan, numa. words are redundant:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kKU30m4mHko&feature=related
http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?Ar...553940&sid=126


this is moshe from the mizrachi, on the special connection between beitar and god:
http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=1852031

this is just in case you get to our stadium and someone tries to sell you leaflets as tickets. they are very similar, dont be fooled!
http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=2028298

the next clip goes to show you that we meen business, and what we would do to anyone who tries to hurt jews:
http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=2067143


this 2 are about us hating arabs or gays ( hapoel fans are both ).and its not racism, its a principle.
http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=2146094
http://www.flix.co.il/tapuz/showVideo.asp?m=2194335

and this is me, hi again =)
http://www.articles.co.il/images/uploads/img2420.JPG

i hope you got a better idea about us now. you will be facing a fierce team+crowd. beware!!!

our team wants Barak Ithaki from Genk(Israeli best youth player), but Genk probably won't accept Beitar offer...
but if Toto Tamuz will leave the team, Beitar will get Barak at all cost...

its compared to UEFA cup group stage +
...but what i meant is that you compared the players of beitar between themself
to exploit weaknes ..or beware from their strong point


how many game of beitar' ..pepole from your site saw?
i saw them every weak so i think my info more exact....maybe i worng
anyway goodluck

We had nice plans too . For example Kluivert ;)

Hell yeah, my pants are already filled with shity goodness after watching these movies. Only one thing, I do not understand a word from what all these guys are saying. I don't know why do you think, that if you'll write some scary words and show some movies with guys talking in a language we do not understand, we'll somehow become afraid of you. What's more I don't have any idea why do you want us to fear you. All you ( sorry most of you, there are exceptions that seem to be on the level) do is brag about being badass rabbis( I meant plural from rabbi) and how dangerous and fanatic you are. Unfortunately instead of making us wet our pants of fear you're making us wet our pants of laughter. From what I've seen today you're a bunch of kids desperate for attention, acting to be tough men and yet proving to be little children. And what I find funniest is that you all pose to be nationalists and yet you call us nazis all the time, where's the logic in that. If you want to fight tou need to be ready to take some beating, but if you first brag about fighting and then runaway to your mothers skirt after the first punch it's not even funny, it's pathetic.

We bought 3 new players as you know probably, and we can say that the transfer window is cloed for us.

BUT, there is a chance that the negotiations between Beitar to Genk (Belgium) about Barak Itzhaki (Played in Beitar half season ago) will go and we'll enjoy a fantastic young striker.

Shaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooom
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=WHEIAEglyBU

I really appreciate that you try to teach us some hebrew but I would kindly ask our Israeli counterparts to use english language.
Should we play against Israeli teams more often, we will make sure to create Wisla's hebrew forum :)

You realy paid attenion to that poor kid? he is one of Hapoel Tel Aviv's fans trying to be smart. Ye, You saw that kid? think about 3000 like that in a match against them. scary, ah?? :-p

BTW, you'll play vs Hapoel TA this saturday...they are realy weak team, with no money, no managment, no hope and hopefully with no future!!

samkal77

You'll play against Beitar and Hapoel too, so you should consider that... ;)

JK.

beitar's fans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25YX3__-eWc

Wisla Fans:

Do you happy that the first lag is in Israel and the second in your home ?

I've heard that Toto Tamuz might leave for some Premiership side. Is that true ?


of course we're happy, but we'd win anyway.

talk with us when your team will do half of what we did ...
hey wanna bet?
i say we will win wisla ..and your yellow agly team will loose to them..

I believe we won't leave the team this season.
He went out with the team to the first training camp in Netherlands and probably stay.
He almost go to Twente (Netherlands) but he won't go there because he costs too much for them.

But if we go, we'll go very hard on Barak Itzhaki, which he is better then Tamuz.

Still, a pre-season friendly is not a CL qualifying game. So I would take your vision :)
But we'll win against both clubs :P

well, Hapoel have a chance to win with Wisla coz this would be our second game of the pre-season. There will be two different set of players for each half, so it's not about the result.
will see.

btw Hapohell, how do you rate Beitar team ? are they strong? do they have a chance with Wisla? Why did they rule your league in such an impressive style ?

and one more:

How many fans do you think you'll bring to Israel ?
As far as I know from our BAD media, it will be probably like 300-450 fans.
Yeah, god knows how they know it. I ask you to know better. :)

what is the weather at Poland these days?

samkal77

no one can rate a team compared to other leagues, and of course, we don't know your team, so we don't know who is the better team...:-/
and i have question to the older fans of you: do you remember when you lost to Hapoel Petach Tikva in the intertoto [4:2](it might be a long time ago)

beitar jerusalem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v38bgM9ZY_Q


video-clip of the season 06-07... you have to see!

Well, actualy gdsmk is wrong, that is going to be our third game. Our first game was against GKS Jastrzębie last friday. We've won 2-0 but GKS is a side from our second division and is among the weaker teams there. We've completely dominated the game, although the game took place four days after the start of our preperations so the score means nothing.

Our second game is going to be against Austria Wien on wednesday.

You mean around the time of our game, or currently?
Currently the polar bears are heading north, as the temperature have risen to a astonishing level of -5 Celsius degrees, but by the time of the game they should be back.

Seriously, these days weatherin Poland is completely unpredictable. It can be 15 Celsius degress and rain or it could be 35 celsius degrees. Heck, we didn't have a winter in two years, at least in some parts of our country.

so many
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=17O0634qmT0







;)

well too tell the truth ....since 3 years ago when a rich (and Mafia member i suspect) buy them
they become quite frightening...and buy every good israeli player (thats why they rule now)

in euro games they not successful ...(3-0 lost to shatar doniezk and lost to Copenhagen last year)

but i cant say if beitar are better than wisla
...becoase i dont know how strong you are....
just heard you lost only one game this season...and took your league in a slow walk
its going to be intersting and hope you win

:rotfl: :lol:

This is absolutely irrelevant to the current situation at Wisla. The times of Wisla beating Schalke, Parma, Lazio are long gone and you know it! Today's Wisla isn't even half as good as Wisla from the games mentioned above. Why do you even remind people about these games is beyond me. Stuck in the past, are we?

If you want to talk about the essence of Wisla then you must not forget about the losses to Valerenga Oslo in 2003, Dinamo Tbilisi in 2004, Vitoria Guimaraes in 2005, the narrow and lucky win over Mattersburg who were at the bottom of the austrian league (1:0 at home and 1:1 away with a very lucky goal) in 2006, loss to Blackburn Rovers in 2006, loss to Feyenoord, loss to Nancy. You brag about the win over Panathinaikos 3:1 but why don't you mention the fact they were just at the start of their season and then Wisla got trashed 4:1 in Greece and was eliminated from the CL?

In recent years Wisla had a lot more losses than wins on the European stage, so stop bragging about Parma, Lazio, Schalke because that was 5 years ago. It's irrelevant, Wisla fans show these clips before every European game but they don't mean shit. The truth is that polish football and polish clubs are one of the worst in Europe and every year they're falling further behind on points and level of play. Wisla is no exception. The entire polish league is one of the most corrupt leagues in the world, in recent times over 120 people have been arrested for rigging matches, including referees, coaches, club officials, and 9 clubs have been relegated to lower leagues so far and more will follow soon. It's no wonder that clubs from such corrupt and rotten league don't mean anything on the european stage.

Just this year Legia won with Wisla 3 times in a row including in the final of the League Cup. They even beat Wisla with a squad of 17 and 18 year olds. Wisla's lead in the league doesn't really mean anything because the polish league is so pathetic that anyone with a few good players and consistency can easily dominate the league. That's how weak the polish league is and in recent years the polish clubs have been losing to almost everyone in the European Cups.

In my opinion Wisla will once again lose on the european stage this time to Beitar. The truth about Wisla is that any team with a little tactical discipline and pressing can beat them, which we've already seen demonstrated by the european teams I mentioned above. If I had to bet my money on anyone here it would without a doubt be Beitar. In my opinion you guys are 70-30 favorites in this game.

Here is a good look at Wisla fans in action for all our guests to see. Lot of videos so enjoy :)
JJJBG!!!

http://youtube.com/user/ewciakrk

You and the rest of wisla karkow fans are very ridiculous, I feel sorry for you. what do you expect when we, beitar jerusalem fans, come to your site trying to invite you to our forum to chat and share information, see some nazi's flags. hitler pictures, some anti jew videos about the holocaust, and read about your hard opponent with the " jew gang " that you keep curse and sing racist songs, and so on from your fans and from your team ?

Just to let you know, beitar jerusalem fans, known as very Zionistic to their country, we will defend and attack anyone who will even try to insult,attack, use racist words against our country/race. we are strong enough to handle these anti-Semites people from your crowd. Yes, we are very sensitive about these kind of things, therefor you will see this kind of reaction - this is normal.

About the fans from both teams, this is obviously pathetic try to show " I have bigger than you" from you and also from us. I feel in middle of war from all those threats from you. watch out from our fans, look at them we are so scary and big, we killed 3 people from our opponents and so on.. come on gimme a break.

We are coming to poland in order to win and support our team in any cost. we will not come to fight with you, we will not try to show which fans are better or scary. we are coming to achieve our goal and our dream - qualify to champion leauge. hope to see a great games and not a war, see ya.

Bjerusalem - you are just like Ahmed.

Silence!!!
I kill you!!!
:lol:

NANCY VS WISLA uefa cup
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Vzsx...eature=related

Israel is very exotic location for us. It's very expensive to get there and let's be honest it's not even in Europe. Most people simply cannot aford such a trip.
I live in Dublin and money is not an issue for me but most likely I will not go to Jerusalem because there is no direct flight from Ireland.
I think that if 100 people will go to Israel I would consider it as a good figure.

Howgh!

need to
 

beitar's fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nG_gxYKXgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7EJ4Ubve4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Pg3f5P1dE
and some nice pictures from our fans:

some more pictures here:
http://beitar-jerusalem.net/vb/showthread.php?t=41886[/quote]

for some reasons i have the feeling that some of our fan's prefer the win in the crowd than the win the game...
to As - don't forget that Jerusalem is a tour city - you can get 2 in a price of 1 -> your beloved football club match at the European Champions League, and a tour in Jerusalem. of course, if you are not interested, you are right...

Well, it would be hard to make a thousand because it's a long and expensive trip. And the communication is also not too good. But probably a few hundred will come so the news in your media might be true. Hard to tell more accurately at the moment.



Yes, it's better for us. In case of extra time or penalties our players will have us behind their backs. Besides there's always a chance of improving our performance if we don't win the first match.

Pioneer is a fan o Legia Warsaw, our biggest enemy. They've lost the league with us gaining 14 points less than we so they have to show their frustration on our forum. That's why they boast that they won with us in the no-name Cup and once in the league when we where already sure of winning the Championship. What they won't tell you is that they had no positive performance in Europe for several years and have lost with a team from Lithuania (Vetra Wilno) 0:2 last year. Their fans demolished the stadium in Wilno after that loss and UEFA banned their club. So pay no attention to what these frustraters write about Wisła.

Hello Beitar fans, hope to see you in Cracow soon, you're definitely welcome !

My thoughts about the game are quite realistic. Beitar probably have better players Abreu or Boateng are top class, and as I saw on youtube whole team have good technique too. If we met last season, or a season before you will probably beat us. At present thinks look better on our team, we had a good season
and slowly our team looks nicer and nicer. Wisla is very good defensly and you are a good attacking team.
So be awere of our counter attack ! ;)
Both team have 50 percent to go throught i think and it could be very interesting competition


I 've few questions.
What is your team budget ?
Do you know Lukasz Surma he was born in Cracow and was wisla youngster ?
Why you dont have one grandstand?

p.s very nice mosaic made from chairs on your stadium i liked it a lot

1)no one sure... something like 100 Million New Israeli Shekels(something like 25 Milion Euro)
2)of course we know him, but the facts i didn't know, nice to know that
3)well.... i don't know the answer( i am not sure about the question too...)

I have question to you, Cracow fan's - our best player is Derek Boateng(MC), Or maybe Sebastien "EL LOCO" Abreu(ST)(haven't seen him playing yet - new signing from River Plate), who is your best player?(don't name your hole team - you must have at least one player who is above the team performence)