1. Zienczuk was one of the best Wisla's player last season. He scored 16 goals in 28 matches and had a lot of assists. He is in Wisla since 2004 but it was his first season like that. Some of us are happy because of this card. Why? Zienczuk is specific player ;)
Don't know who will replace him. Maybe Junior Diaz will take the 'left defender' and Piotr Brozek will be winger. Maybe Lobodzinski or Boguski. Who knows..

2. Polish league has been delayed again. It will start 8th August.

I will be fair.
the atmosphire in the stadium was great you can see and feel it watching television.
As for the game i was impressed from wisla side they were strong physical and very fast as a eurpen team should be Brozak is an excellent striker one of the best i have seen in years we should sign him (i heard your team is short in cash maybe Arkadi will give you an offer you cant refuse) and you got a good result.
But Beitar is still a better team then Wisla!!!! and we will advanced to the third stage.

Could you write it third time ?
Beitar has better bench - that's all.

Don't be so confident :) The atmosphere in R22 will impress your players and fans .. i'm sure :)

Nothing will impress them. Or at least they would deny it no matter what. Even if we spent a milion on pyrotechnics, waved a zillion flags, jumped all the time and don't stop singing for one second... They just cannot stand that anybody could even think they're not the best around.

Quit arguing here imo. You'll come (or not) to Cracow, you'll see our supporters, we'll know final score here. Beitar wasn't better team yday, in football aspect we're on almost same level. Hope Wisła is gonna win game in Cracow and advance to the further stage but it'll be hard. 1:2 is a good result for us but it could be better if only Sobol scored a goal instead of 'searching' a penalty. But nvm, it'll be forgiven if we advance :)

Let me put it this way Your attack did impress me especially Brozak your defense are weaker then Beitar defense (i will say a second division league defense in israel) and our defense was very poor this game (this eventually will advance beitar to the third round we will score against you in karakow for sure).
As for the crowd i looked at the wisla fans that was in teddy they sang 5 min after brozak goal and thats it.
So you cant say we nothing cant impress us.

I am comming can you point me some good opubs there?

less then basic level picture

http://www.wislakrakow.com/www/pictu...0/nikol/10.jpg

inspired on this picture

http://i37.tinypic.com/2ilbvv7.jpg

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I was talking about the fans, not players. And funny to hear that our fans sang for 5 minutes after the goal, cause I heard them a few times more. So was it played from loudspeakers or something? :P

mate,you are known in israel for your bad support. you support your team util the opponent scores a goal and then suddenly your whole stadium is quiet and you even whistle your own players.

you could even hear the 130 strong wisla supporters during most of the game.

your club is just pathetic, your owner even more so,he buys players, they dont deliver the promised level of good football.

you are spoilt brats,that think you can only win with your millions, and think that you should win every game. you can be compared to a shittier chelsea.so after one game if you lose your cry and hate your team and so on.and then when tehy win you sing for 5 mins.

your support is just not good im sorry,but whistling your own team after falling back with one goals is just "criminal" but i guess your used to the best football normally or?

but your team is know for having patological fans, socially very low fans = proletariats.

Ok you won you sang five times and all tedy shook from the singing it was like an earthquake it was amazing i was impressed
Are you happy now?
can you sleep at night?
Grow Up

you want to convince me that your team was better?i am honest,but both teams played probably below their level, i know for sure wisla did. and if any of us go up to the third round, the future is not very bright for any of us.

kale, i just say Copenhagen.

i want to see you and your players come to Poland in winter, play with -10°C. then you know. the climate in Israel is different,and it did show during the game. it affected the players. they had no power 15min before the end. i hardly ever seen Wisla players so exhausted.

so dont make immediate judgements on our team.who did you beat in europe?....Exactly, so you shut the fuck up.

I wonder about Beitar's away form. There are a lot of teams who plays well home but away r really poor.


Do u know that we had great record 73 home matches without defeat in polish league?

Look who's talking :D

No. You won because of our mistakes. First goal for your team was a disaster of our goalkeeper and defense. The shot was really nothing special I can say that 9/10 it shouldn't be a goal.

Maybye you were this guy with pig on his head which I have seen on TV and you didn't see the game? In what way you were much better? Explain me please. We had more opportunities to score, especialy after you shot your first goal. You played like african teams - everybody forward without any tactics, sorry mate I was really amazed that you have so much money and you talk sth. about Champions League with a team like this and play like this.

Ok, but usually or even always you can't hear away suppporters in TV (for ex. because of microphones) but I have heard Jazda Jazda 3 or 4 times, sorry, that's true.

There are some options, Brozek, Boguski or even Diaz.

Nothing special, scored 2 times but in my opinion after our huge mistakes so it was really easy.

Mate, it will be a different game in Krakow. In Jerusalem we played defensive because we thought you are better team. It was a huge mistake because we could win away and the game in Krakow wouldn't be so important. So don't really look at Wisla comparing to the game in Israel because we will play different and I'm sure you won't score

Let us wait for the rematch and then you will be able to say whose support was better.
Till then, we have nothing to talk about. Your support wasn't bad but only whe the score was fine for you. So you can't call yourselves "fanatics" because fanatic sings during the whole game no matter the score is.
We'll see what you will show in Krakow. After what I've seen yesterday, I guess this won't be the highest level of support.

PS
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Could you please use CAPITAL LETTERS when you write about Wisla and Krakow? Or is it too hard for you?

Beitar had to score 3 or 4 goals, specially in the end, but thi is football.
2-1 is a very weak result, but at least you'll have to attack and we'll do the counter attack.

BEITAR.

Mate, it will be a different game in Krakow. In Jerusalem we played defensive because we thought you are better team. It was a huge mistake because we could win away and the game in Krakow wouldn't be so important. So don't really look at Wisla comparing to the game in Israel because we will play different and I'm sure you won't score[/quote]
Now you calm me If that was a defensive way you played so sorry you are in big trouble Wisla defense is very poor.

If the defensive was so poor as You think, You have really disaster offensive scoring only 2 goals against players "from the 2nd league in Israel"

sorry mate,but bigger and better teams played in Krakow,and had huge trouble even endangering our goal,let alone scoring goals.

guessing from your statements, i think we didnt watch the same game,if you talk like this. beitar was in no way the better team.

i think its time to end the discussion with idiots like you.whatever comes from your mouth is just stupid propaganda,trying to show us how great you are, but you're just a bunch of kids with minority complexes.support wise you dont even come close to Polish 4th league teams.let alone "real" European standard of real support.

dude,honestly,stop talking.the 2nd round is not over. you were lucky.end of discussion.

There was a game 3 years ago Wisła - PAO. I remember what was the atmosphere here on this site we were almost in heaven after winning 3-1, for us it was clear thet we will finnaly get to the CL that we will crash PAO on their ground. We were laughing when PAO fans were telling us that it was only matter of luck and theirs poor shape, and that they will win and qualify. Guess what Beitar fans ? They were right. So i am looking forward to game in Kraków. See ya I am going to stadium to buy myself a ticket :)

Shandorps, give us a break and to the rest of beitar fans - shut the fuck up.

Beitar didn't deserve to won this game .Its should be draw...:-/

btw, your site quite fucked up. i see comments on huge delay, dunno why. only after i comment i can see the rest of your comments.

you're pathetic, i give a shit about this pictures you showed of our fans. my team won so keep crying. lets wait for the second game and may the best team win.

Hmm.. Do u know, that u have to refresh site or change page? :lol:

You won, but 2:1 is not so good result in perspective of second leg played away. I'm sure you now what what i'm talking about. Wisla team is extremely dangerous playing at their own stadium so i think chances for win are still 50-50.

As i saw yesterday your team is at same level as our side so second match will be very intresting. But i think you will have huge problems keeping good result from the first game.

heh..u should ask your fans that came to israel about the atmosphere.
israeli tv never put microphones to hear the crowd.

btw, your coach was quoted saying to israeli media that "it is hard to play under pressure that crowds like Beitar's make and that his players had to get over that and that hopes are that wisla fans will do the same to Beitar's players on 2nd leg".

hmmm so why I heard Wisla Krakow fans?? many times, there was only about 100 Wisla fans.

where was your hell?? bueeheh you're so funny.

The sole fact that 100 Wisla fans were able to break through says a lot, no matter how much you boast about your greatness.

And what do you expect our coach to say? He lost a won game (treat it as you wish- when a team loses after leading 1:0 and creating chances, it's a big failure, no matter how good the rival was) and nobody said the atmosphere was crap- you showed some level, definately more than majority of western silent clubs. Enough to get a mention (by the way- do you know of a word such as courtesy?).
But your performance didn't impress anyone here, be sure of that. You may try to explain that Israeli TV never puts microphones close enough to the fans (while all TV's around the world do that, don't they?), but it seems they were close enough for Wisla fans (antisemitic plot?). I also didn't see thousands jumping, just some groups. How can you explain that? A wave of leg injuries disabling the supporters?
But sorry, you're the best, no doubt...

130.


http://www.wisla.krakow.pl/galerie/2...etr_losowy=100




Beitar fans, I hope that you will be up to the match in Krakow .

If you knew our coach, you wouldn't take it seriously. Sometimes we find it a bit irritating, as he is always saying nice things! - about opponents, referees and so on. That relates to Wisla players too - he tends to praise even those who in certain situations deserve just a kick in their ... you know what. As for me it's a nice change after our experiences with some previous coaches, painfully blunt madmen losing their temper, such as Petrescu or Smuda. :lol:

If we play the same way as in our Basel's game for instance, I'm sure we will crush out this "paper" team from Jeruzalem.

BTW. the game was strange. It was equally possible result 2:0 for Wisła and 3:1 for Beitar. But we had more luck at the beggining and I'm disapointed, moreover disgusted we havn't won this match. Next wednsnday we will have to show much more quallity to win the game. But it is clear we are weaker than last season after Dudka's, Kokoszka's, Paulista's leaves.

We have no tactical options. That was easly seen yesterday. If Dudka plays stiil for us, after 1 half our middliefield Boguski Dudka Sobolewski Jirsak Zieńczuk and there would be no way to score 2 goals against us.

This is all becouse of our Cupial matter. And his fatal, devil's plan for the Wisla's future. Leaving us definatelly.

Cheers guys from Beitar. Despite some of you are out of sheet the others are acceptable. Here in Cracow I don't see it save to visit pubs in your team collours. After that low-ground discussion here you could be just fucked out by our hardcore fans.

And don't be polite now. Most of you are fucking self- rightous, stuffed-shirt assholes. So be carful visiting Cracow, and don't be irresponsible, foolish and cocky becouse of AMERICAN UNCLES!!

Your supporting was nice for me. Not very hardcore, but emotions and involvement (all because of Wisla's defensive faults) were shown. HAHAHA. You are typical fair weather friends according to your great club. So don't even try to show any emotions to us:) No ignorants here. But in your country....

I have met many friends from Israel, but I haven't even known 1 guy so straight and ordinary as your ambasadors on our site:)

That is the Beitar's label you have allready presented here by posting above.

"Jama" klub is a good pub.Stay to saturday and go in.You would be welcome there.Just remember to wear your skull-cup.

:lol:

Beitar Fans, tell me one thing - how many cumshots you had during writing on that site after yesterday match?

I' ve 2 questions to Beitar fans.
First of all, where was that hell you promissed us? If it was during the game... well... sorry guys but... you call that hell when 130 of our fans brake through and they were clearly heard in TV? I' m wondering what would happen if we would get 800 seats for our fans and 800 would come to your "hell".
And where was that "the best team of the world" who smashes us to the ground so we can' t even leave our half of the pitch? You won only because of our poor performance in deffense and we acctually could win this game because we had at least 3 other situations when we could score, for instance Niedzielan' s 1on1 or Cantoro' s shot at the very very and of match.

Wisla fans - U R so so so lame ... sorry but Blockbuster called they want u 2 return the movie ya'll r living in ... u were the better team ?!?! uhad like 2 attacks at this game ... if it hadn't been for your luck u would have gotten 5 balls to the back of your lousy keeper's net...
Ya'll know that you're gonna get eliminated next wednesday.

It's so nice to see someone as realistic about the world as Beitar fans teaching us that, ya'll :D

Ok so you' re telling us now you are watching matches with closed eyes and you are not able to see anything what puts Beitar in "not_the_best_light" as well as you have ipods put on so you can' t hear that your hell is nothing more than joke :D.